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Including in the republican party, is in favour of a strong american presence in the world, and the isolationists will find themselves isolated. if it fails to pass, that will be a real blow for biden and i would say for the united states more broadly. again, we can all see that this is a quite pivotal global moment in terms of the different conflicts that are going on. so, is the us facing an alliance set on destabilising the west or are these three independent conflicts, each of which happens to involve us interests? of all the areas funded by this bill, the largest and most urgent is ukrain...

United states and european countries, through propaganda campaigns and supporting isolationist and extremist policies. russia is fomenting division over ukraine because it wants to weaken america's role in the world. in particular, one russian policy expert cited in one of these documents specifically calls on russia to continue to facilitate the coming to power of isolationists right-wing forces in america. just to put a finer point on this, russia very much wants the marjorie taylor greens of the world to continue doing exactly what they are doing because it serves russia's interest's. this ...

The war that any loss is not their loss. this is an absolute misunderstanding. a defeat for ukraine, he said, means that many will fear stop fearing challenging the u.s. and the costs will increase. it feels like some people in the senate in the republican party understand the importance here of not empowering the isolationists, both as a matter of functionality and in terms of the cause of democracy in another world. do you think that speaker johnson is able to bring funding to the chagrin of the far right members of this? is it a signal that house members are realizing that they have been us...

Because of the politics of this. on the other side of the aisle, that this may not happen at all. and so yeah, look, it is behind right. ukraine has lost ground because we have delayed because because of the politics of my colleagues across the aisle. but speaker johnson now has decided to move as hakeem jeffries, my leader said, this is a chamberlain or churchill moment and it looks like leader jeffries is going to help potentially mike johnson make this a churchill moment for all americans. because that's really where we are. we can't let the freedom caucus, the chaos caucus, the folks that ...

Senate in the republican party understand the importance here of not empowering the isolationists both as a matter of sort of republican functionality and also in terms of the cause of western-style liberal democracy all over the world. do you think speaker johnson is willing to bring up this ukraine aid funding to the chagrin of the far right is a signal they've been employed by the use of the kremlin? >> i would not go that far. it seems speaker johnson has made an individual decision that it would be a disaster for the united states to abandon ukraine, and i think he knows this would be his...