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I watched tucker carlson, an extremely influential right—wing commentator who, i think it's fair to say, is a great sort of sympathiser with the trump "america first" ideology, telling all of his millions of fox news viewers that biden is needlessly provoking russia. 0n the conservative right in america, there are many voices saying that america just needs to back off, that this whole kneejerk interventionism is a mistake. well, that's the old tale of isolationists. and it didn't work out. so if that had prevailed in world war ii, i would argue that britain would not be britain, the nazis wo...

International politics, where you abandon the notion that america fights for freedom and democracy on every battlefield. i don't think any american wants american troops in the ukraine. i don't think that's going to happen. that's really off the table. deterrence is really the key here to stop an invasion and to stop a war. and that's what i'm talking about — we need to ramp up the deterrence. and i applaud the president for talking about tough sanctions and deploying the troops to the eastern flank — all those are good things. yeah, i may have a split in my party on this thinking, but i d...

Have the isolationists, what i call the neocon artists, out there talking about how we are the instigators. this is what happens when he undermined the united states' military. this is what happens or the like democrats. let's be honest about it. a lot of false pied piper's saying what does ukraine have to do a better america question mike i don't know. what does south korea have to do with america or taiwan have to do with america or israel or venezuela or cuba or any of the rest of them. they have everything to do with america. because once the genocidal maniacs got head wenda, they don't st...

Coming in. they depend on that not only for transporting troops but also for delivering weapons. you would see a scene from "saving private ryan" on steroids along the coast in the sea. and that's, i anticipate that might be one of the next steps that mr. putin might execute. >> pretty chilling thoughts. general mark hertling, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, john. >> next, i'm going to ask russian pro democracy leader garry kasparov whether he thinks this initial round of sanctions will be enough to deter vladimir putin, and whether he's overplayed his hand, putin has alread...

Fire from six wing aircraft jets, helicopter assaults too, a whole bunch of helicopters coming in. they depend on that not only for transporting troops but also for delivering weapons. you would see a scene from "saving private ryan" on steroids along the coast in the sea. and that's, i anticipate that might be one of the next steps that mr. putin might execute. >> pretty chilling thoughts. general mark hertling, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, john. >> next, i'm going to ask russian pro democracy leader garry kasparov whether he thinks this round of sanctions will be enough...