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Separately. >> harris: while i have become a quick question. the president made a statement today about syria. he's going to lift the sanctions on turkey. he believes there's a permanent cease-fire. are you confident that this action will be a good one to protect the national security of the united states. >> i don't trust erdogan so i'm watching that very closely but i'm glad the president is talking about keeping a small number of special forces in syria. we have to stay focused on isis. we cannot have isis 2.0, and the isolationists who think we can just pull him float like obama did of ira...

There was no warning to them when the president made his decision on the phone call that day, as well as the people next door in jordan and israel, who is concerned about iran, the saudis are concerned about iran. basically he has empowered iran and russia in that region and is asking for a cease-fire which would leave them in control of what was a kurdish area. >> the president of the united states, you know, just this morning again has said that somehow this is not the united states' business. and yesterday talked about the fact that somehow we're 7,000 miles away from that area. that's what...

Allies are? is that the way a u.s. president should talk about isis terrorists? >> look, i understand and a lot of peoples frustration with how long these wars have taken. too hard, too long, too expensive. how does this end, is this an endless war? but one thing we have to help people understand we're not talking tens of thousands of troops here, we're talking a few hundred actually preventing this conflict and preventing future wars. look, if the goal -- if the strategic goal of rand paul and other isolationists and they're on both sides in both parties is to bring a few hundred troops home,...

Escaping to europe. that's where they want to go. they want to go back to their homes. >> joining me now democratic congressman mack rose. good to see you, congressman. >> good to see you too, buddy. >> do you share the view of the vast majority of your colleagues about what is happening here? >> i do. but it's interesting to ask why. i've been a supporter, actually, of this president's effort to get out of afghanistan. >> yes. >> i want to see us reduce our footprint and our forever wars, and how do we do that? the way we the that unless we're naive isolationists, we partner with people, part...

Engage in this -- >> we are not engaging in anything. >> bret: that is not what was on the table. if we were there, turkey would not be in there we control the sky. the american troops were there and we would have given a green light. >> bret: we are talking about 50 nus -- [overlapping voices] >> hold on, mollie i want to respond to you. this is endless work and ordered from the isolationists right and left. there is no endless war because we are not fighting these wars. we have proxies fighting these wars and we have 5,000 troops in iraq, 14,000 troops, syria 1,000 troops. we have 98,000 tro...