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Issue areas. dodd frank, et cetera. hard to believe it's not a response to what is happening in the campaign. >> a little preemptive joe biden blocking here. biden would have to support it as a member of the administration. maybe this gets her to the left of the biden. >> if he's going to get in, again, as you say, she's picking her spots that way. all across the board. she's looking very carefully at places she can distance herself a little bit from the administration. look like her own woman. but at the same time, stall biden from taking issues from her if he was to get into the race. and ge...

But they don't understand them them don't acknowledge them or recognize them. they think the racists are some terrible people over there. what's your experience with that? do you find that to be true? >> absolutely. when you look at poll after poll, upwards of 85% of americans really truly do believe in egalitarian ideals. and i wouldn't question that. and i think that our conscious selves are very fair-minded. you look at that across a variety of issue areas. whether we talk about race, sexuality or gender. the challenge is that we hold these unconscious biases. we've internalized the stereo ...

Coffee shop or water cooler. being able to actually hear what the electorate is saying as opposed to the view of a single pundit or a group of people turning dials in ail hotel ballroom somewhere can be very telling. what's interesting and toure talked a moment ago that you get more talk. we saw massive amount of conversation on both sides. the peaks haven't been the big bird type moments but actually more substantive issue areas. >> what's interesting is we talk about how television ratings are going down for sitcoms, for d m dramas and other things. it isn't going down for major event televi...

To show loeadership with the budget and failed. he said it's time for politicians to stop talking about confronting the difficult issues, we need to confront them. he created a presidential commission, which is where issue areas go to die in washington, d.c., and his own co-chair, irs skin bowls said we would need deaf significance reduction of $3 trillion to $4 trillion. again, it's a question of it's all americans, republicans, democrats, alike, need to confront this reality and it didn't happen in the budge. talk about the entitlement issue, social security, also medicare, what's it going t...