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Trump transition. the meeting adds yet another data point to the reported contexts. there they are on the screen that took place between trump associates and russians starting from the early days of the campaign through the inauguration. i'm joined by julia ansley, national security adviser for nbc news it, heidi przybilla for nbc news and joseph is a former federal prosecutor. let's go with this meeting. what does it add, julia? why are they meeting way off there a few days before the inauguration? >> of course, this would be january right before they're coming in. if this is a big if, if the...

Does it add up to you or not, jonathan? >> i mean, come on. she was on the cover of british "gq" grabbing a plastic whale i think was the cover shoot. she was not even a super model. she was a working model. but not even an einstein of the modeling class. and look, these, these visas are hotly sought after by academics. you're talking about people who can make a real contribution to this country. arguably there should be many more visas, we should staple green cards to people get ph.d.s, because we want those people. right? instead, what are we getting? we're getting people who are using favor...

There's a serious trickle-down effect that will have an impact in the courtroom in the day-to-day work of the men and women of the fbi and the department of justice. >> so paul, the republicans who voted to release this memo say they're doing it in the best interest of upholding these american institutions, protecting the integrity. there are problems within, they believe, exist. and that is why they made this memo public. does it add up to you? >> well, taking the memo on its face and excluding any political explanation, it still doesn't make the case. as they describe it, this was a process ...

Statements, so some stories are wrong, some stories are too hostile some are legitimate. >> i will go to jimmy carter i don't of an adequate him said he has never seen anybody so badly treated by press as donald trump he was he tweeted balanced i think quayle held record in terms of bad treatment press condescension this is new the phenomena i say forgive the press this much trying tendons how it works can mind of man go back to a time what was pre-trump. >> what did we do? >> before last year what did we talk about. >> what my show was about? >> there is no shortage of things to talk about. >...

Snakes exaggerated statements. some of the stories are wrong and too hostile. but some of the stories are legitimate. bill: i will go to jimmy carter. he said he's never seen anybody treated as badly by the press. but again this phenomenon. i still think, i will forgive the press this much. they are still trying to understand this guy. a friend of mine said to me last week can the mind of man go back to a time that was pre-trump? what did we do? what did we talk about? there is no shortage of things to talk about. howie: is that -- it's a good thing, i guess, that everybody is plugged into dem...