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Willingness to negotiate. i don't think we have seen that same willingness from democrats, personally. particularly nancy pelosi. >> harris: kennedy, there is reporting about a bill that house democrats are floating or potentially floating that would call it border security. then you have to have that trust that they don't all seem to have amongst themselves, that they would talk about what to do with the wall funding. i say take it further, put that date in there. but make the predicate that there is also a provision that says to let the experts tell you whether or not you need more technolog...

Doesn't have to look as if he's caved? yes, it comes down to this semantic argument over what is a wall. is it border security? is it a border barrier? is it drones? is it just law enforcement? is it a location of all of those things? i think at the end of the day what you will see the white house say is that it's all of the above and that will end up mattering more than will the overall dollar figure. so in some ways, if you take this new deal, this proposed deal that lindsey graham is offering, in some ways we're back at square one. we're back at $5 billion. remember the original chuck and n...

Border security. donald trump has put forth what is a political ploy in terms of his wall. he fed that misinformation to his base and now he's trying to save face and that's why we're in the midst of a government shutdown and it's unfortunate, jim. >> so at this point, you are saying no wall. the president is not going to get any funding for a wall. are you saying a moment ago, you can call it border security. can you talk about technology, additional resources at the border. but the president is not going to be receiving funding for his border wall. is that what you are saying, congressman? w...

Who will stick by his insistence on a border wall. what you will see is probably a situation where they compromise on semantics, call it border security as opposed to the border wall and probably reach an agreement on the amount of funding. >> my question, $5 billion to the 3 of us is a lot of money but to the federal government it isn't that much. the president expressed a desire for it. democrats just playing politics over what is in the scope of the federal budget and -- >> two points, republicans forfeited their opportunity to discuss the border wall in 2013 when the house would not take u...

Additional assistance and coverage. republicans look at people who lost coverage and failed under obamacare. american people are so angry no one party is looking to solve all of the problems on behalf of a broader con sstituency. using daca to get a border wall is amoral. to put these peoples lives in leverage for a political agenda. democrats. to come along and say let's build the wall. let's it border security if we get a solution. >> you are criticizing the president for what he's successfully doing what you want to see done. and do something about border security and a smart solution for d...