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Of rain. nbc meteorologist bill karins is joining me once again. so, let's get to the latest. where's it going to look bad? >> well, it depends, alex. if we're going through this afternoon, it's the jerry shore. later tonight it's around new york city, long island. then overnight we shift up into new england. we're getting towards the heart of the storm. it's really starting to form now and get stronger just off the maryland coastline. rain has picked up over the chesapeake bay. this is the big picture of the storm. we still have rain all the way back through illinois into iowa. this is just a...

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Asked when he would support biden for president in 2020. he told new york magazine it depends who is running. it appears we love an old folks home. elizabeth warren, bernie sanders will be 79. if hillary clinton ran again she would be 73. >> little honest truth there. the e-mail scandal that may have led to her demise. this election cycle has already come back into the spotlight. appeals court reviving two lawsuits arguing there was not enough done to restore hillary clinton's missing e-mails. the state department and national archives to get the e-mails. president elect donald trump cabinet i...