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Testifies as it seems he's going to after memorial day, and if he talks about what his note said, that's going to be another huge chapter. >> that's at least nine days, the pace that things are being revealed, the language itself is losing its capacity to actually register how big each one of these things is. we can't even digest what happened three hours ago, because another thing has stepped on it. and i think it's incumbent upon us to slow it down a little bit and make people understand the gravity of what is happening. >> it does after a while to seem like -- >> if we allow that to happen,...

That's when you were able to go with the story. >> that's happenstance, we're not looking to time stories to a trip or anything like that. in this case, it's not like we're writing about his trip. but it's going to create awkward questions for him. i imagine he'll get on to a degree in saudi arabia. in israel, there's going to be a lot of tough questions, and not just about the meet where he gave up israeli intelligence. and talking about the western wall maybe not being part of israel, things like that. and it upsets the pattern, just going out to the public without a plan. we all get annoyed...

Premature, but there is not just, you know, idle talk at this point. there is reason to be very concerned about the propriety of what went on thin this white house. >> i think before you can really have a fruitful discussion on impeachment and a removal of the president of the united states or know person, we have some deference we give to people who are not the president of the united states, and you should as a prosecutor. he's not immune to being criticized or having said something wrong. but neither is the common person saying it either. let's have an investigation first. >> there's a lot ...

The president is going to have to address it, it's going to see how he's going to explain it and how believable it was. we don't know what it means, but on its base level, as you said is fascinating, this incredibly surprising look, the president said he was coming to washington to drive a wrecking ball through a lot of things, so to that exte extent, i'm not surprised. but there's disdain for some of the forms of diplomacy. that's not what this is. this is an active investigation and he has been either unable to or unwilling to mod late his behavior accordingly. >> and again, matt, as we ment...

Told this before, that president obama warned off incoming president trump about hiring him. and now he's central to our trying to understand, you know, was there collusion? this would suggest there's more collusion than we thought and is more evidence building up? it doesn't settle things. it's still early. but i will tell you this, that also for a long time we were asking why is donald trump so solicitous of vladimir putin, and now we have the second question, why has he be so solicitous of michael flynn. and we really need the answers to those questions. >> whether it's loyalty or i don't k...