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Welder gets it and the next gets it and it works on assembly lines. it doesn't work on a lot of industries like this one. i have to say like joanne said , it is hard to take. >> isn't it? and that's the low end of her pay. she makes it up on the -- >> on the back end. >> i didn't say it. >> bradley cooper, why is he going along with it? >> he is trying to get women on his side. >> he is trying to be a male feminist. >> he has the ex-boyfriend guilt. >> he should have said i'll look into it. he should have blown it off and said it isn't my job. the conversation shouldn't take place in the media...

People and break down spy networks we've created. i've seen it. should we be using it? that's a separate issue. but i do believe it work does. it doesn't work on everybody or in every case. >> this report goes through multiple cases that the cia has said or examples where it provid provided, they discount basically every single one of those cases saying, the information was gotten prior to the suspect being tortured and in many cases, torture ended up getting misleading information. >> this is sort of, let me say this, it's a narrow window and these are a number of cases that the agency had a ...

Killed. that's the goal here. and the standard is if it's possible, your words, if it's possible that lives could be spared, shouldn't we try that. that's your standard, isn't it? >> i'll tell you my standard is this -- you can't legislate morality. legislation works on the sane, legislation works on the law abiding. it doesn't work on criminals -- >> if it's possible to reduce the loss of life, you're up for trying it? >> there are monsters out there every day and we need to do something to stop them. >> if it's possible to reduce the loss of life, you're worth trying it, correct? >> if it's ...

The alternative? >> because that's your standard is that fewer people should be killed. that's the goal here. and the standard is if it's possible, your words, if it's possible that lives could be spared, shouldn't we try that. that's your standard, isn't it? >> i'll tell you my standard is this -- you can't legislate morality. legislation works on the sane, the law abiding. it doesn't work on criminals -- >> if it's possible to reduce the loss of life, you're up for trying it? >> there are monsters out there every day and we need to do something to stop them. >> if it's possible to reduce the...

You'd rather continue to risk the alternative? >> because that's your standard is that fewer people should be killed. that's the goal here. and the standard is if it's possible, your words, if it's possible that lives could be spared, shouldn't we try that. that's your standard, isn't it? >> i'll tell you my standard is this -- you can't legislate morality. legislation works on the sane, the law abiding. it doesn't work on criminals -- >> if it's possible to reduce the loss of life, you're up for trying it? >> there are monsters out there every day and we need to do something to stop them. >> ...