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So far, this election cycle, super pacs have spent more on ads than the candidates they're backing, setting up the possibility that the primary process could last until june. does somebody on the inside of these big money machines think this could be the downfall of the gop? joining us now is jonathan cleekio, the director of communications for american crossroads, a conservative super pac, co-founded by karl rove. jonathan, thanks so much for coming on the program. >> thank you for having me, luke. >> i want to ask you this question. so newt gingrich and rick santorum, the only reason they're...

Frantic alarmist media about trump of which i include myself because i was every bit as worried about trump as anybody during the campaign. i have to say i am part of the alarmist media. i think if you watch the news and you are part of the news and you are part of the government, you convince yourself that if trump became president, the country would be in peril. therefore doing something like this, which is illegal, is actually patriotic. >> jesse: that's what peter strzok himself texted. >> greg: but they are wrong. i admit i was wrong. they have to admit they are wrong. they might have to ...