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>> gregory gadlin has his own technology. uses a distinct knock to call his downstairs neighbor to the bowl. >> i got one knock like this. it go -- >> and while most inmates scoop the water out, gadlin uses a makeshift plunger. >> flush, wait a minute and i'm -- i use my mattress, and it's kind of crazy, i would have never thought until i was taught. but this is how i do it. take it, i go like this. i put it over here. right? and you know the pressure, it makes it go down. so -- it's pushing the water down and out like little tubes down there. grab a couple things so my head won't be all the w...

Or no record that something like that formerly existed, you're inheriting problems from what folks did a long time ago. >> so who needs to deal with this and how do you make sure this doesn't happen right there in the immediate area. could this get worse? >> certainly, it looks like it could continue on. we see a 600-foot length along a trench. how much farther does it go, we don't know but now people are aware of the existence of this. and ought to maybe do some drilling to see if you encounter those sediments some place else. and also figure out what it was. does this have branches in it and...

Perception in the american people has become very, very firm. this is not, as she claims a political vendetta. this is not politics. people understand she lied. she tried to cover up. she did this for secrecy and to keep it out of the eyes of the american people and congressional oversight. that is a really hard place to be. and now, so i think the odds, they are reasonable, i still think they will probably find a way to let it go, phone or whatever. she is in jeopardy. >> so then you have joe biden in labor day, i think he was in pittsburgh, saying he is really mad that the working class is g...

Perception in the american people has become very, very firm. this is not, as she claims a political vendetta. this is not politics. people understand she lied. she tried to cover up. she did this for secrecy and to keep it out of the eyes of the american people and congressional oversight. that is a really hard place be. and now, so i think the odds, they are reasonable, i still think they will probably find a way to let it go, phone or whatever. she is in jeopardy. >> so then you have joe biden in labor day, i think he was in pittsburgh, saying he is really mad that the working class is gett...

And that seems to be the biggest problem we've had with finding help. >> but without immediate answers, the hoarding continues. >> part of it and the feeling you fight against is the idea that, okay, this is mine. i bought this. i have the control over it. and now somebody's telling me that i need to get rid of this and i need to let go. it becomes an issue more of control than perhaps emotional attachment. >> i think it's just the issue of letting it go. i think she feels that when she lets it go, she loses a little bit of control over the item. she doesn't realize the control she has to let ...