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Clyburn, who is, of course, the democratic leader in the house, they all say biden doesn't have a problem. that they know him. they know his record. it kind of shifts the onus to cory booker, who we had a great interview with last night. is he just trying to play to advantage to try to get some wattage in that race? >> okay. so here's the thing. i understood what he was saying -- >> which one? >> i understood what, well, former senator, the vice president joe biden was trying to say. i understand it. he did it inartfully, and many times in conversations we do that. i did it the other night wit...

All right. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. i don't know if you got a chance to see, don, but we had greg meeks on. >> mmm-hmm. >> you know, the congressman, longtime congressman and, you know, him, the woman who is at the head of the cbc, the congressional black caucus, clyburn, who is, of course, the democratic leader in the house, they all say biden doesn't have a problem. that they know him. they know his record. it kind of shifts the onus to cory booker, who we had a great interview with last night. is he just trying to play to advantage to try to get ...

Also give her credit for the apology. it wasn't like she went out and said everybody should be in blackface, she put it inartfully, it was a serious mistake, but like you say, was the resentment tied to the fact she was making so much money, the $69 million contract and that she had come from fox? >> well, i think her persona and her on-air style a prosecutorial interviewer, somebody who challenged orthodoxies. she brought that to nbc. that's who she was when they hired her. >> what did nbc continuing was getting? . >> exactly, exactly. and this has been a -- you know, a narrative in all of th...

Steve cortez. steve, gentlemen, great to see both of you. steve, you were a campaign adviser to president trump when you hear the word breeding, how do you hear it? >> i hear it -- not to play describing crime, the crime breeding. when he talks about sanctuary es cities. i remember the big interview he gave right before the super bowl with bill o'reilly he used that phrase about sanctuary cities. they are crime breeding. now i'll admit, i think he wrote it inartfully. i wish he had repeated crime and crime infesting and crime breeding would make it clear and we wouldn't be having this discussi...

Advice about how to talk about the things and president trump may have delivered it inartfully. if president obama was on the end of the phone and i was in the car, i wouldn't have politicized it like congresswoman wilson. >> there's no winners here. >> right, the american people that have four young men -- >> willing to do this. >> that would be willing to go and leave their family to a place out in the middle of nowhere to fight terrorists so they don't come here. i would urge president trump let's talk about the four soldiers, why they did what they did. and all of those like them. >> all r...