Security that is meaningful that actually does something. putting out numbers that obviously, you know, that aren't -- that you can't verify or -- >> but i mean they're wrong. it's just -- >> it mess -- it doesn't fix the issue. >> no. i hear you that it's not helpful. but is there also something just disconcerting about not being able to trust the secretary of homeland security, not being able to trust the press secretary to give you the facts? >> well think there you always have to make sure that whenever, especially the administration, they have to make sure that their numbers are correct. ...