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. >> you know, i don't know how bad it is for hunter biden. i don't know what the evidence is. you know, i don't know what the political ramifications of it are. i suspect they're not going to be that great. but the point is we don't have a president who is saying, this is fake news. these prosecutors are corrupt. we don't have a president who is trying to disrupt the process of an investigation in the justice department to help somebody in his family. i don't see president biden pardoning anybody who might have anything to do -- pardoning his son or pardoning people who might have anything to...

As low as 35 -- >> it doesn't seem to be hurting him. legally, the next move that stormy daniels is doing is suing michael cohen, the president's personal lawyer for defamation. what do you think of that? >> what you need to think about with the strategies, her attorney, it's based on one thing. that will allow him limited discovery and a secret proceeding and getting into federal court where he can take depositions and depose the president and depose michael cohen. >> how does he do that? >> by having lawsuits like a defamation case, if it proceeds, he will certainly be allowed to depose -- >...

Blowhard, who may be saying the president is deeply involved in this and interested in this, when he has no right to say that. however, nice thing about a lawsuit and we're really good at these in this country, if it proceeds, there will be discovery and the discovery in the digital age will be full of digital fingerprints and trails, e-mails and all the rest, so we're going to learn a lot more about this. >> in fact, all of the communications to air force one are recorded. so there is a record of all of the phone conversations back and forth because they were calling lawyers on the ground, in...

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