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Weeks of their control of the government and right before christmas, trump decides to shut down the government because he couldn't get this done during the two years when he had complete control of the united states government. >> so who had the leverage in this situation? >> it's not clear to me, is it clear to you? >> democrats. yeah. it's a sticking point. democrats don't really have to change you know, construct schumer getting out there saying, there will be no wall. the government there reopen when you abandon the wall. >> that is throwing significant gauntlet down for trump. who knows t...

>> there is a stop resisting kind of vibe to what republicans are doing. they are saying we run this place, we pick the supreme court. we run everything. shut up. stop resisting. you are not allowed to say anything. and when president obama is president, you ha president, tough tedagainst -- n agains againsagainst -new nugent saying we need to kill them. >> and he was there the same day kanye was there. kanye got all the attention. but ted nugent was at the white house again. but this is all about trying to silence opposition. trying to project what they are going on to democrats. and then tha...

>> i am using it rhetorically. i know the founders didn't put anything in place. that is what we are dealing with right now. that is the reality of the situation. it is upon all of the democrats that are in office to make a lot of noise and for americans to make a lot of noise. it involves aboubeing in the tr and very loud. especially if we know that he is trying to appoint one who believes that a president can't be investigated or indicted and will probably have to rule on that. >> very soon. >> charlie, you compared this to watergate. and nixon trounced mcgovern by such a margin, that they d...

Story the the release of that made it more urgent that those stories not come out. what do you think about that? >> i think that donald trump's president is illegitimate. it means if you break u.s. laws to get the white house you are not a legitimate president. >> what does that word mean? chris murphy said i am uncomfortable about using the word illegitimate. >> i am using it rhetorically. i know the founders didn't put anything in place. that is what we are dealing with right now. that is the reality of the situation. it is upon all of the democrats that are in office to make a lot of noise ...

It's because andrew puzder, his labor secretary, has not two, not three, not four, but five strikes against him. because the executive order was a mess. so he will rise or fall on the merits of what he accomplishes, not on whether he gets a good or bad press.s. >> bill: all right. a chris wallace, everybody. you don't have to be respectful you can just -- >> i was saying it rhetorically. >> bill: "you are an idiot, o'reilly, here's where you are wrong." >> that was the subtext. >> bill: we will see you onn sunday. when we come right back, judge pirro on "outrage of the week" and it is incredib...