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The optics of it. here's what he said. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina, i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate to do that. but look, i am, i have to say i'm a little amazed that as you mentioned, a widely covered speech, likely by people at your network, is somehow caused a cur fluff l five years later. >> i love that. so, dan, i guess question is there is no doubt about this fact that it was covered. it was open to the public. it was talked about during that time. is it smart of the republican party to bring this ba...

Something. >> let's taste the actual vice president. >> who's this? >> i don't know who that one is. >> it's the vice president. just can't remember his name. >> biden. >> no, no. >> many were better at celebrities. >> tom cruise. >> justin bieber. >> it's not that people are stupid, but most americans spend more time thinking about other things. >> the average amount of time that a person spends on presidential politics in the course of a campaign is probably about three hours. >> that may shock you political junkies who watch fox, but americans spend much more time thinking about food, money...

>> well, this is awkward. >> that's the vice president of something. >> let's taste the actual vice president. >> who's this? >> i don't know who that one is. >> it's the vice president. just can't remember his name. >> biden. >> no, no. >> many were better at celebrities. >> tom cruise. >> justin bieber. >> it's not that people are stupid, but most americans spend more time thinking about other things. >> the average amount of time that a person spends on presidential politics in the course of a campaign is probably about three hours. >> that may shock you political junkies who watch fox, but...

>> many didn't know nancy pelosi. >> who's this? >> i don't know. >> oh, my god. >> well, this is awkward. >> that's the vice president of something. >> let's taste the actual vice president. >> who's this? >> i don't know who that one is. >> it's the vice president. just can't remember his name. >> biden. >> no, no. >> many were better at celebrities. >> tom cruise. >> justin bieber. >> it's not that people are stupid, but most americans spend more time thinking about other things. >> the average amount of time that a person spends on presidential politics in the course of a campaign is proba...

>> interesting point on this is the "new york times" had an editorial about it on thursday and they've kind of broaching what we talked about, the vote exposes the true priorities of the republicans. no republican agreed to support the middle class tax cut because they anticipate the rich get one, too. the rich would have gotten a tax cut on their first quarter million income but apparently that wasn't enough. if you look back through history and you look at how republicans have owned the tax issue, is it smart for democrats to push it like this, or could they fall victim to saying they're rai...