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Has rejected your type of boundless interpretation say, well, it's just impeachment, we really don't have to prove the elements. that's a favorite mantra. that's sort of close enough for jazz. well, this isn't improvzational jazz. close enough isn't good enough. if you're going to accuse a president of bribery, you need to make it stick, because you're trying to remove a duly elected president of the united states. now, it's unfair to accuse someone of a crime and when others say, well, those interpretations used to define the crime aren't valid, to say they don't have to be valid because this...

We'll deliver on that. this is pretty clear what's going on. >> bribery is for the public at large, easier to understand than quid pro quo. >> who the hell knows what that means? it's like an s.a.t. word. bribery is something that you understand. most people understand. it will be interesting if it makes its way into this hearing. and you have seen some of the members use that word. adam schiff, i think, in most of his questioning and certainly in his opening statement he was still using the quid pro quo. >> also extortion made an appearance. >> some people feel like maybe extortion is actuall...

Now know, is it -- yeah, i'm wondering what your take is on it, how concerning is it to you? >> as i said, i think having giuliani an unelected, unappointunappoin unappointed ambassador at large galloping around europe is bad. i think the hunter and biden issues are really. any rational person would look at that, even if they didn't break any laws, it was bad of biden to follow his dad around the world picking up consulting democrats along the way. i don't believe those are illegitimate to bring up. i think the way he did it is bad judgment. is it impeachable? i don't think so. it's the last c...

Document and make sure that all of that is air tight. i am not in any way defying anything that has been said in this document but i do think it's important that we make sure that when we move forth with this information, we have enough to substantiate to make it stick, to make sure there can be no doubt because we're going to need to be just that perfect to get any action out of the senate. >> okay. i should say not doctored the complaint but instead really authored the complaint because as far as we know that's what resulted in this complaint that this person actually authored it. all right,...

Going to be in frenetiend frene mode. they're going to destroy our economy. they're going to make us like venezuela. if you're rung against somebody like joe biden, that is so absurd and ridiculous, i don't think it can resonate. there is a danger if they're running against a sanders or a warren that they could make it stick. i think it's very important if sanders or warren actually wins the nomination, they have to pivot to the center to negate these trump attacks. because i think the one skill that trump does have is he is very good at hitting the weak points of his adversaries. and so democ...