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Now, turning attention to the ron johnson letter if i may. Yes. On august 31st, Senator Johnson is getting ready to travel to ukraine on September 5th with senator murphy. And he wanted johnson wanted the aid released, he calls the president , he actually sought permission to be the bearer of good news. Right. The president said, im not ready to lift the aid. And they had this Senator Johnson. He writes a ten page letter, very detailed. And he gives some remarkable deta detail. And id like to read it, its on page 6. I add this is Senator Johnson speaking, i asked him whether there was some kin...

That isn't true. no one is keeping ambassador sondland from his emails, he's a state department employee, he can go -- he does have access to his records, he stated he didn't. and he stated he doesn't have any notes because he doesn't take notes. and he conceded that he doesn't have recollections of -- on a lot of these issues, and we sort of made a list of them, and i think at the hearing i called it thetry te trifecta of unreliabi. >> and you're not the only person that has concerns about ambassador sondland's testimony, conduct. i think other witnesses took issue with his conduct, is that c...