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True. there is a readout of the call which is not verbatim as he said, and they believe him. >> right. i mean the question, don, is how stupid does donald trump think we actually are? and judging by some of his supporters, i mean he thinks they're pretty stupid, that they'll believe anything he says even though it is so plainly at odds with that phone call. remember those magic words, i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> right. >> what's interesting to me, don is while the president is still sticking to his defense that this was a beautiful and perfect call, there are some republicans...

We actually are? and judging by some of his supporters, i mean he thinks they're pretty stupid, that they'll believe anything he says even though it is so plainly at odds with that phone call. remember those magic words, i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> right. >> what's interesting to me, don is while the president is still sticking to his defense that this was a beautiful and perfect call, there are some republicans who are not prepared to fully imbibe all of the kool-aid. so there was just a "washington post" story tonight saying that some senate republicans are trying out a new...

Very large real estate deal in russia, trump tower moscow deal that would involve the permission of the russian government now we know that he and his business were pursuing that during the presidential campaign and the president says it's perfectly fine he was doing that after all, he's a real estate guy all over the world, that's what he does and as he says, everybody thought he would lose the presidential election so why should he forgo business opportunities that might otherwise elude him if he put his business career fully on hold while running for president. there was nothing wrong with ...

Russia that clearly the president, michael cohen and others were talking about, but never came to fruition. the teal didn't happen. >> the deal wouldn't have been illegal by the way though. it's not a resign to play for the private sector. it wasn't illegal. he was lying about a transaction that would have been legal anyway. pete: absolutely. ed: you have more contact but not necessarily collusion. >> exactly. pete: very, very different. jonathan turley was on "special report" last night and had insight on this point. take a listen. >> the thing that caught my eye was that synergy conversation...

Presidency here. the fact of the matter is we know american names are being unmasked. we know that somehow general flynn's conversation, the transcript of which was leaked, again, another incident of confidential information that was being put out. i think at a certain it's either got to put forward the evidence and say here's what's going on -- >> the only thing i have to say to that jason, is when wikileaks was leaking things about anthony weiner, when they were leaking things about hillary clinton, john podesta's e-mails, all i heard was lock her up. i haven't heard one democrat say lock hi...