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That all happening all at once. Maybe its a coincidence, maybe thats what happens when the charges start to get filed. They all interrelate. They must be at least some level read into whats going on in muellers shop, we would hope. This all looks like its designed to protect donald trump. Not get at the meat and potatoes of what russia did to us. I feel like so much of what were seeing is it to protect donald trump i dont know maybe im a little paranoid thinking that is disturbing. None of us are naive. But the part of it that i have been a little bit dismayed by is that its one thing for peop...

Russian speech, and it's pretty clear that the senate intelligence committee after spending five hours with him, had some important questions for him. and there's also been reports that to some questions, he's asserted his fifth amendment rights not to answer. where he fits into all of this remains to be seen. he may not be the figure to write off as some have thought for some time. >> absolutely. michael cohen has been interviewed by investigators this week. he was supposedly grilled by investigators. the significance of that? well, as you know, michael cohen sent the e-mail in november of 20...

Off but he did take that trip to moscow while he was working for the trump campaign and gave a pro russian speech and it's pretty clear that the senate intelligence committee after spending five hours with him had important questions for him and there's also reports that to some questions he's asserted the fifth amendment rights not to answer so, you know, where he filths in this remains to be seen and may not be the figure to write off as some thought for sometime. >> malcolm nance, we have from nbc reporting that michael coenis interviewed by investigators this week, supposedly grilled by co...

Donald trump, significance of that? >> well, as you know, michael coensent the e-mail in november of 2015 essentially saying that he was aware that russia wanted to work on this project of trump tower in moscow. you know? and the ivanka spa. and that -- they and he trying to get them elected president of the united states and felt confident there's a form of support bringing him in, bringing carter page in, i'm not sure whether these are just check the box interviews. i think that these are supporting operations interviews which in some way, shape or form not only to get the truth and also sup...