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That all happening all at once. Maybe its a coincidence, maybe thats what happens when the charges start to get filed. They all interrelate. They must be at least some level read into whats going on in muellers shop, we would hope. This all looks like its designed to protect donald trump. Not get at the meat and potatoes of what russia did to us. I feel like so much of what were seeing is it to protect donald trump i dont know maybe im a little paranoid thinking that is disturbing. None of us are naive. But the part of it that i have been a little bit dismayed by is that its one thing for peop...

Bringing him in, i'm not sure if these are check the box interviews. i think these are supporting operations interviews, which will get the truth, but also support whatever comes down manaforts -- i'm sorry, the mueller investigation's pike, and will support quite possibly future charges or other lines of investigation. >> yeah, and natasha, you know, the trump former campaign team has attempted to portray all of these contacts and meetings as enconsequential. has there been any sort of independent verification that these data operations were successful? they're saying none of it was really ev...

Donald trump, significance of that? >> well, as you know, michael coensent the e-mail in november of 2015 essentially saying that he was aware that russia wanted to work on this project of trump tower in moscow. you know? and the ivanka spa. and that -- they and he trying to get them elected president of the united states and felt confident there's a form of support bringing him in, bringing carter page in, i'm not sure whether these are just check the box interviews. i think that these are supporting operations interviews which in some way, shape or form not only to get the truth and also sup...

The united states and felt confident there's a form of support bringing him in, bringing carter page in, i'm not sure whether these are just check the box interviews. i think that these are supporting operations interviews which in some way, shape or form not only to get the truth and also support whatever comes down manafort's -- i'm sorry, the mueller investigation's pike and will support quite possibly future charges or other lines of investigation. >> yeah. natasha, the trump former campaign team attempted to sort of portray all of these con tkts and meetings as inconsequential and unneces...