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Out. and the employer man date coming back. there is a list of things to go wrong with this? >> jamu, do you see the same sort of pessimistic outlook in terms of obviously 5 million people who got cancellation letters, and do you see more of those in the future f if that happens with the small businesses? >> no, alisyn. it is not about a first imprigz. la rs can agree we have had a time that lost first game of the season and gone on to win the championship. that's what will happen with the affordable. it is more than political issue. it is life or death. before the affordable care act people c...

Their strong negotiating. >> i think you are are right. democrats would be defending obama care through the glitches and instead republicans helped to change the subject and threw the democrats a lifeline. ja mu. the democrats instead of saying okay, we'll get the shutdown over with. and we have made our point, let's move on, they seem to be dug in. and everything that gets sent. open up the monuments and veterans their money and child to the nih for cancer treatment and they say no, we get all-or-nothing. i have never in my life thought that governing was an all-or-nothing proposition. >> it ...

And combined the issues and hurt their strong negotiating. >> i think you are are right. democrats would be defending obama care through the glitches and instead republicans helped to change the subject and threw the democrats a lifeline. ja mu. the democrats instead of saying okay, we'll get the shutdown over with. and we have made our point, let's move on, they seem to be dug in. and everything that gets sent. open up the monuments and veterans their money and child to the nih for cancer treatment and they say no, we get all-or-nothing. i have never in my life thought that governing was an a...

To make. there is a divided in the government by design and the house of representatives, get say in this and you do have to negotiate. the democrats are looking at polls and say that americans rightly in my view hate the government and will blame republicans a bit more. >> and we don't have to negotiate. and we'll let the republicans die on the vine here. and that is overplaying their strong hand. and we are going to give the republicans a life line out of the canyon they built for themselves. >> ja mu, bill clinton understood the art of negotiation, he worked with people. he didn't always en...

It goes both ways and here is the other things. oprah has a movie out about the butler. it would be terrible if she used the movie to promote the movie. but it is not fair to call anyone a racist when there is no proof. rude yes, racist no. >> ja mu i could have walked in there with flip flops and ripped joens and would got the same treatment from the swiss snotty. >> don't call her snooty without proof. >> yes, i told you. >> snotty is not as bad as racist. >> go a head. >> there is a bigger issue. there is a situation that happens a lot in this country. let's move away from switzerland and o...