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I think they're great. again, i'm speculating. but he ran most of his campaign on an anti-terrorism agenda. and on making friends to the russians. so the intelligence that he hands over to the russians has to do with counterterrorism. it's a brilliant move on the russian's part and amazing that donald trump fell for it. >> jack, this goes to your former line of work. why would this material be valuable to the russians as a trafficable commodity? what could they do with it? what is the value to them? >> well, i don't know exactly what the material is. but anything that can lead a hostile intell...

Predisposed to like them, probably even more so because he's very stubborn and everybody keeps telling him that the russians are bad, they're trying to play you, and he is kind of saying, well, i don't think so. i think they're great. again, i'm speculating. but he ran most of his campaign on an anti-terrorism agenda. and on making friends to the russians. so of course the piece of information of intelligence that he hands over to the russians has to do with counterterrorism. it's a brilliant move on the russian's part and amazing that donald trump fell for it. >> jack, this goes to your forme...

Tennessee republican senator bob corker, who is chairman of senate foreign relations. >> senator corker, a man to watch going forward. a reminder, the president leaves on his first overseas trip at the end of this week. let's bring in our panel on a monday night to kick off the week's coverage. starting with our chief white house correspondent hallie jackson, jeremy bash, julia yafi is with us, currently with the atlantic, and we welcome jack barski, a former kgb spy living in the u.s. during the cold war. he later cooperated with the fbi and is now an american citizen. he also happens to be t...

U.s. jack barski is a former kgb spy. he spoke with cnn's ana cabrera about general flynn. >> i'm absolutely blown away by the naivete of a senior person, such as mr. flynn, not understanding that when you get in touch with somebody in an official capacity from russia, or in the old days, the soviet union, you might as well talk to their secret service. i mean, these types of individuals are either directly associated with one of their services, or at least report back. this has always been like that in the soviet union. it's been like that in my days and that hasn't changed. >> so, you think ...

Russian authorities? >> i can't even grasp how somebody with that kind of an impressive background of service and intellect can fail so miserably. i mean, it goes sort of along the line that i found americans to be rather naive when it comes to the world. we think everybody should like us and we sort of like everybody. there's a lot of naivete amongst the general population. i just did not expect this to extend to some of the highest level in government. >> the saga continues. jack barsky there. coming up on "cnn newsroom" this hour, germany's past catches up with the present, forcing thousa...