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Along. when it's a man and woman, which is usually isn't, when this rare event does happen, the woman is usually seen as the accomplice who went along for the love of her husband or her partner. but keep in mind that when somebody has murderous intention, it's probably too late to stop them. they should have been stopped long ago. not because they were troublesome but because they were troubled people. they had lots of personal issues. as i said, mr. miller had a long criminal record. we should be getting involved and intervening long before somebody decides they want to kill because once they...

Did not know that this was a fictional character. there's something about the girls themselves. actually only takes one. i would call some teenagers and preteens temporary sociopaths. they might commit a hideous crime at the age of 12 or 13 that they wouldn't dare commit if you can get them to the age of 25 when their brain has developed more and they no longer have this kind of tareq disord character disorder. when you put them with another youngster, you may ask for big trouble. >> that was the recipe here, jack levin. so upsetting to hear the idea that 12 year olds could commit such a horri...

Celebrities. >> she said she was molested at age 4. her mother corroborated that and joined a satanic cult and witnessed a murder which was part of a murder at age 13. might that have played a part in her story, be it real or not? >> it's possible. i'm hoping that the police investigators will indeed take this very seriously. let me tell you that there millions of people who have suffered as children. millions of them. most of them never hurt anyone. they grow up to be healthy decent civil human beings. you can't just take a childhood experience and say that's the reason that she is a serial k...

>> it's kind of all coming together in one monstrous thunder clap, and the goal is to keep making it better. >> make sure you guys watch each other's backs, okay? have a good night. be safe. >> reporter: ted rowlands, cnn, chicago. >> chicago isn't the only big city that's seen a drop in homicides. also on the list, new york, detroit, los angeles and philadelphia. so what's behind it all? joining me now is a criminologist, jack levin from northeast oouuniversity. good to see, jack. >> thank you, fredericka. >> yeah. there were a lot of predictions within the last five years of crime rates soar...

0 shootings, but they've seen the reduction in homicides. thanks to trauma centers, hospitals where people who might have died from gunshot wounds 10 or 20 years ago are now surviving. and they're taking their cue from afghanistan and the war there where lots of our military are surviving. >> a host of influences here. criminologist jack levin of northeastern university, thanks so much for your time and expertise. appreciate it. >> thank you, fredericka. >> and happy new year. all right. we've got much more straight ahead in the "newsroom." right now it's 3:00 eastern time. i'm fredericka wh...