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Ukraine that had already been appropriated by congress until there was some type of a movement that was favorable to the president. if there are laws to be broke or that have been broken, we just don't know. if there's inappropriate contact, it appears there may be. >> jack, john, thank you so much. you've got to see this. a car crashes into a mall near chicago and then keeps driving right through it. we'll talk to an eye witness with the shocking scene next. >> what the [ bleep ]. about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a...

Back in 1973 and '74 but apparently this white house doesn't remember the history. >> the person that can speak about that is john dean. john, obviously you have firsthand experience with watergate. where do you rate this? >> i -- it's really in a whole other dimension. the level of playing with national security for personal gain is the potential charge here is just really beyond anything we've seen by an american president. so i would say this is much, much more serious potentially than watergate. we've got the obstruction charges that are already outstanding. we have the potential campaign ...

Investigate joe biden's son and that happened eight times in a single call which raised serious questions about whether this president is using his authority to harm besieged political enemies. joining me to discuss is john dean and also jack tarmaccio. he's with homeland security in the george w. bush administration. good evening, gentlemen. appreciate having you both on. jack, you first. you say the way this whistle-blower campaign is being handled makes watergate look like kindergarten. why? >> well, what i'm seeing here, don, is already a pattern of obfuscation. you've got rudy giuliani ou...