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Minister more on. they are touring a paper recycling plant that is still in construction. let's bring in james kindle, a political reporter for the boston globe. this pratt manufacturing facility in wapakoneta, james, gives the president to show case an ally, the australian prime minister, as well as make a case to voters in a very important election state. >> absolutely. there is no doubt the stage craft makes a lot of sense for president trump as well as the prime minister of australia. clearly here since friday at the state dinner. head together u.s. general assembly this week. but this ano...

More of what he said about -- i asked him about citizens united, whether he regretted supporting that. he didn't, but here's who he targeted. >> the victim of one particular person, mitt romney, whose staff went out and decided to run a deliberately negative and dishonest campaign. this particular approach has nothing to do with the citizens united case, it has to do way bunch of millionaires getting together to run a negative campaign. >> as james put it, newt will get a lot of attention this week for what he's doing to mitt romney. >> that's exactly what citizens united was about, about peop...

I think he'd be perfectly happy to go back to texas. >> i think the lesson on rick perry is going to be you got to want it and want it for a very long time. you know, you could tell, he didn't want it. >> got to have it deep in the gut. because this is not easy. you're leaving your family, going out into small towns, shaking hands, you're tired, little sleep, and if it's not deep inside of you, the air will come out of you. when rick perry got into the race he was the anti-romney candidate that a lot of people were ready to put their arms around and his debate performances were not up to snuff...

His primary hurdle, winning over conservatives. newt gingrich told me moments ago he plans to make that an issue and hopes to have some backup. >> rick and i between us will draw a clear enough and sharp enough line with romney that we'll go through phase one of making clear to the country that romney is a massachusetts moderate. we're going to be out here trying to say we're the best candidates and in the process, i think, we're both going to be defining romney out of the mainstream of the republican party. >> gayle collins is a columnist for "the new york times," james kindle and my colleagu...

James, did she or rick perry have any kind of organization here that rick santorum can sort of back him up? >> for michele bachmann, all of her staff left her in late october, as far as my count, she had one big endorsement in the state, a smaller tea party-type leader. but she had a moment there in june where she could take off in the state but she did not make that happen. as far as rick perry, yes, there is a strong organization, of course, for his longtime consultant, dave carney's from the state, and the team put together some impressive names. >> there are people to hire? >> people to ge...