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St. clare from the most prestigious law firm in boston. and everyone had an even higher estimation of james st. clare because the president needed a defense lawyer and turned to james st. clare. >> one thing i would point out, in watergate, the president and all the president's men had first class lawyers. their legal representation was excellent. there was one lawyer who became a defendant in the case. he was less experienced and got sort of hoodwinked by the white house. he was impressed, i think, by being part of the oval office team and started behaving in a way that was illegal and got ca...

>> eventually. and i also want to get you on what you make of evolving defense theory coming from donald trump's personal attorney and white house attorneys. you had john dowd floating donald trump cannot obstruct justice. but now you have ty cobb from the white house, i don't know, downplaying talking to the "washington post" saying they're focused on a fact-based defense not a mere legal defense. one of my initial questions, is why aren't all these folks on the same page when it comes to something as fundamental as this? >> they may not know the facts. that happened during watergate with jam...

But for most other modern presidents, there is somebody. president nixon went through not one, but two outside private lawyers. his first was a man names charles alan wright, the preeminent constitutional lawyer of his time. wright, however, was unsuccessful in his efforts to prevent nixon from having to hand over the white house tapes. and so nixon canned him. replaced him with another prominent lawyer names james st. clair. st. clair defended the decision to withhold the tapes all the way up to the supreme court before they lost that case. during iran/contra, president reagan retained republ...

Lawyers. his first was a man names charles alan wright, the preempent in institutional lawyer of his time. wright, however, was unsuccessful in his efforts to prevent nixon from having to hand over the white house tapes. and so nixon canned him. replaced him with another prominent lawyer names james st. clair. st. clair defended the decision to withhold the tapes all the way up to the supreme court before they lost that case. during iran/contra, president reagan retained republican super lawyer ted olson as his private counsel. ronald reagan's successor, president george h.w. bush hired jimmy ...

James st. clair that was richard nixon's special council came from the hold firm in boston. that's the irony and then the perspective it's been 20 years since mel gibson's conspiracy theory came out with his apartment full of maps and red lines and newspaper clippings. i'm beginning to think there's some offices in mainstream media that have those kind of charts. there's lots of paperwork and in the end there was a conspiracy. >> tougher question, how does the trump agenda do next week on capitol hill when everybody is back? >> the agenda advanced with the conversation this week and the destru...