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addressed the unprecedented indictment friday. >> we have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to everyone. if applying those laws, collecting facts, that's what determines the outcome of an investigation. nothing more and nothing less. paul: joining me now is the former attorney general of the united states, michael mukasey. judge mukasey, good to see you. so you've read the indictment. how strong is it? >> well, if the facts set forth in there are provable, and a great deal of it indicates that they clearly are, it is very strong. a lot of the evidence comes from his own...

The ukrainians have a huge opportunity here. the united states and the west has helped them but not with everything that they wanted and certainly not in the time frame that they wanted it. and they've within attacking in three different locations. two of them they've succeeded in marginally in ma muled and zaporizhzhia they conducted an attack, and the russians were able to stop it using attack helicopters and also successful introduction of electronic warfare and jamming ukrainians. the fact is, is that this is going to go on for weeks. but the ukrainians, i think, do have an advantage. and ...

They cut those off and get down to the sea, that divides the russian military. and from there they would be with able to threaten crimea. not with ground force invasion yet, but they would do it with long range artillery, rockets and missiles on their bases and depots where they have ammunition and the like. and eventually, zelenskyy and his generals do want to retake crimea. but they wouldn't do that this year. but that would be a huge strategic loss for putin if the ukrainians were able to have that achievement. paul: what odds do you put that ukraine is going to succeed here? and it strikes...

Explosion that the dam and flood parts of the battlefield there. >> well, it's an impediment. i do think it was done by a tactical russian command orer, and i think he saw an assault coming, not a major assault, and he released this. he just washed away a lot of his own minds and actually a lot of his own defenses. i don't think he's long for the position, to be frank about it. and it's hurting the people more than anybody. but in terms of how to recover from that, i put my money on the ukrainians recovering because they're more adaptable. but the the offensive has begun, and so our audience u...

Giuliani doing this. there were members, mr. volker and mr. sundland were vofrinvol and so much so they were jamming ukrainians putting it on the record. no, you have to say it on the record and you can tell the ukrainians are pulling back and say well, maybe you should say on the record that we get the oval office meeting before we do that. that's a quid pro quo being negotiated. i find it deeply troubling. a, the president did it and b, he had a lot of help here. >> you are a formal diplomat, have you been asked to do anything like this? >> no, i worked five years for president obama. we did...