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It's a crime against nature, whatever. >> you know why i'm asking that. >> my mother, jane wiman, gave rock hudson his first job in hollywood. so i'm very familiar with the gays in hollywood. i have no problem with gays in hollywood. i just have problems with, in fact, gays getting married and changing the culture and redefining the institution of marriage. >> it reminds me a little bit -- my last point on this. there were people in america throughout america in the '50s and '60s saying, yeah, i know a few black people, but i don't want them marrying our white girls. >> and i think that was wr...

>> well, you feel i crossed the line. but again, it allowed me a point to come on and talk to you about where i feel about this issue. about gay teachers, i don't care about gay teachers. i don't ask a teacher if they're gay or straight. i want to know if they're good teachers. >> but you do care about it. you do care about it. >> no, i do care about it -- >> wait, wait, wait. let me repeat what you said. you said ultimately it's about changing the culture of the country, it will inevitably lead to teaching our school kids that gay marriage is a perfectly fine alternative. why shouldn't they b...

Line. but again, it allowed me a point to come on and talk to you about where i feel about this issue. about gay teachers, i don't care about gay teachers. i don't ask a teacher if they're gay or straight. i want to know if they're good teachers. >> but you do care about it. you do care about it. >> no, i do care about it -- >> wait, wait, wait. let me repeat what you said. you said ultimately it's about changing the culture of the country, it will inevitably lead to teaching our school kids that gay marriage is a perfectly fine alternative. why shouldn't they be taught that gay marriage is a ...