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The public interests because of the historical nature of this. and one of the things that the media has said so far, at least in the court record is this, not since the nixon administration has the federal government yielded its power to seize records from a former president in such a public fashion. that s the perspective on the transparency side. of course, with all of this, there is a lot of politics at play in the background. there are republicans who want more transparency because they are interested in attacking law enforcement, there are calls to defund the fbi. yesterday out of the white house we said that is not going to happen, it is off the table, not something that president biden would ever want to do, defund the fbi. katelyn, what more are you learning about the new york times reporting that federal prosecutors are working to subpoena the national archives for documents that january 6 th committee already has? reporter: right. well, jim and bianna, this is something ....
Defense, if you will, inside, against the attempts to overturn the election. i want to play for everyone just a reminder of part of his testimony that the committee has used. let me play this. i don t want to hear any other effing words come out of your mouth no matter what other than orderly transition, repeat those words to me. and what did he say? eventually he said orderly transition. i said good, john, now i m going to give you the best free legal advice you re ever getting in your life, get a great effing criminal defense lawyer, you re going to need it. and i hung up on him. what can you tell us about herschmann, what he could offer federal investigators? yeah, herschmann speaking to the grand jury is significant. he had he s going to be most helpful with corroborating testimony given, whether publicly in the january 6 th committee. some of the moments he had visibility into were access to ....
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Here is the other important thing, he ll want to make people choose, force people to choose, he s going to call the big donors, are you with me, are you withesantis. in some ways you would think the january 6 th revelations would be something that would force him to maybe take a step back, but with trump, he s, like, he s, like, well, we re going to put everybody on the spot, are you with me, are you against me? and right now there is also the possibility that he could have some challengers. ron desantis is not staying at home and staying quiet. he seems to be laying the groundwork right now to challenge trump. he s been the beneficiary of all of the negative news about trump in these january 6th hearings and elsewhere. every time a trump challenger trump-endorsed person falls, everyone says, man, does trump still have the juice? desantis is looking good to some of the big money donors. exactly and has been ....
He if he announces, he ll be center stage again. and trump s discussions about running again come as bombshell testimony before the january 6 th committee is shedding new light on his involvement in the capitol insurrection. testimony like this from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me, we re going get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. and on top of that, her revelation that trump knew his supporters were armed. he was angry that we weren t letting people through the mags with weapons, what the secret service deems as weapons and are weapons. i heard the president say something to the effect of, i don t effing care they have weapons, they re not here to hurt me, take the effing mags away. let s discuss all this and more with laura borne lopez, ....