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Jeb in south carolina, people were struck by how much he had aged. we had not seen him in public life. and he came out on the stump for his brother. president obama is not going to be a shrinking violet but do you think he'll remain public, but not active in terms of verbalizing any type of political disdain for a trump presidency? >> well, i think it's interesting, you know, i mean i agree with mike he'll model himself on "w" in this sense. both were surprised -- and in obama's case shocked that his successor was not hillary. and in ws case he thought it would be the republican, mccain. and h...

Clear that jeb was the bush son who was thought of having serious political ambitions. certainly more so than the brother who went on to actually become president. >> the five of you have the reputation of staying out of the spotlight. is that by design? >> it is for me. i don't feel like i've got all that much too important to say on the kind of big national issues, therefore got to do my job, raise my family. and you know, we campaign some. i know i did during the election but child's place for the vice president in my view is keep his mouth shut and make a living. that's what i try to do. >...

Son, not the candidate. and if dad loses, nobody will blame jeb. except perhaps jeb. linda elerbe. >> linda is such a god. she always has been. jeb bush's knees literally knocking, shaking as he stood before that crowd in puerto rico. that was february 1980. but all of jeb's nervous campaigning down there did pay off. poppy bush won the primary that year with 59% of the vote. all 14 of puerto rico's delegates and coming off his win in the iowa caucuses that year poppy bush had real momentum. that presidential campaign, the 1980 campaign for his dad, that really was jeb bush's first foray into ...

Chairman in florida, dade county. are you looking to a career in politics, is that where your future lies? >> if i can get about half the income you make i can get into politics. until i attain that. >> i do this for free. >> george w. bush, nothing to say about big national issues, just worried about raising my family. jeb, you're looking at a career in politics, aren't you. the 1980s were jeb bush's introduction to national politics. he did go on to become florida's governor and to make a ton of money as he alluded to wanting to do in that interview. at the start it was the 1980s, his dad's ...

Because i think the two of them are really really bright. i mean, we're talking major intellects, and i know that about jeb in particular because i work with him quite a bit. >> but you're not supporting anybody yet. >> not yet. >> are you really open to anybody? >> here's the truth. i consider this election the most important election of my lifetime, much more important than my own. i think the country could be in for a permanent, permanent problems if it elects a democrat that continues, even half of what obama is doing. >> yeah. >> and i think we need a ronald reagan. i don't mean ronald re...