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Think he's getting bad advice. whoever told him to go on that stage and attack marco rubio, it was almost a prewritten plan you must do this. and he did it and executed so poorly. he had bad line. so at some point jeb needs to take control of his campaign and figure out what his message is and what he's going to be about. >> let me answer your question about whether i think jeb is in a death spiral and the answer is flat no. not only does he have the best team on the ground, not only is he rolling out policy, he also has the heart. he's one of the most fiercely competitive people i know. which...

Attacking anybody else on the stage. >> that conservative, moderate -- >> tells me that jeb bush made the biggest mistake of his presidential campaign. the second most unpopular candidate should not be attacking the second most popular candidate in terms of favorability, and positive ratio. and mash co rubio know that this was coming because jeb started to challenge him self -- several days earlier. so this is politics 101. for people watching, the higher the lines go, the more favorable reaction. did you watch when jeb bush was speaking? it caved. went down immediately. and the more that gene...

We're waiting to see what the turnout is there. >> not exactly a huge crowd. gets thousands people ben carson thousands of people bernie sanders and hillary clinton they get a lot of people kwho show up 100 people on a day after a big debate that's sort of pitiful. >> i don't know, look, it's the way it's always been done. it's a typical new hampshire event. donald trump shows up and does one event every so often. jeb bush does five events in one day in different towns. what jeb needs to do, wolf, is he needs to get past this mental block he has where he thinks that performing and entertaining...

Third term of george w. bush. so reminding us of him just as that funny clip you showed is not what jeb wants. it is not what jeb needs. there is a reason george w. bush was quietly disinvited to the last republican convention. republicans didn't want to talk about his eight years. they really don't want to talk about it now. >> i will say this, roger. since he left office george w.'s approval ratings have been steadily increasing. so people have a more positive than in the past. 52% approve of george w. bush at the moment. that's a big contrast than in 2009 that 30% did. >> they almost always...

Carson needs to be carson. i'm very glad his teeth are not going to be aching. any pain he may be feeling may be caused by trump. in jeb's particular case he has got to get the policy right. he doesn't get to do a donald trump. if he has an oops moment, that will not be forgiven like it is for donald trump. but he also needs to fight back. donald trump is going to be a foot and a half away, well within jeb's wingspan. if he wants to pick a fight, jeb needs to hit back. >> do you think trump really effectively will set the tone, the pace for tonight's debate? what are you expecting to see? >> t...