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Offense to that, but does he have a natural debate style, jeb bush? >> well, yes, it's again, it's very much directed at the substance. i think that for example tomorrow night that jeb needs to be jeb. he can't pretend to be donald trump. he can't pretend to be someone he's not. so he needs to be shorter with his answers, perhaps more focused, sharper, demonstrate passion when appropriate. >> all right. so dr. taylor, you next. let's talk about your guy. your guy is dr. ben carson, he was polk at 6%. now he is closing in on donald trump. are we going to consider to see this mild mannered candi...

Needs to do that. hey, carson needs to be carson. >> and he's going to bide by that tonight. carson needs to be carson. i also asked him what he prepares in terms of standing next to donald trump. and he says he's going to treat donald trump like everyone else on the stage and he expects donald trump to return the favor. in terms of a pre-game for ben carson, he said he played a little pool, he got a haircut and went to see his dentist, wolf. >> all right. that's interesting what he did today. kate, thanks very, very much. let's get some more with our political commentators who are joining me,...

Inkreeging, donald trump's latest instagram video going after jeb bush. >> having trouble sleeping at night? too much energy, need some low energy? >> they have an hsa in some companies, some companies don't. i think the norm ought to be -- >> jeb, for all your sleeping needs. >> how does jeb bush fight that? >> i think by being jeb bush, i think he has begun to fight it, it's a real issue, it's taken some hits. it's kind of sticking. i think jeb needs to show that he's got the energy, that something that is a little vexing for those of us that know him, he was known for working 16, 18 hours a...

She would despise everything he stands for. that doesn't matter. it's a way to prove that he's not the robotic board. last week i said he looks like he's being marched to the guillotine. >> if you're the butt of somebody else's joke i don't know that that shows so much personality. >> it does show that you can take a joke. >> just like marco rubio can take it with the whole drinking thing. >> yes. >> ultimately, jeb needs to realize he keeps makes these mistakes. this is a rookie mistake. >> i don't think it's a mistake f you ran it by stephen colbert's people, they would have said no. >> well...

Somebody else down but you take yourself down. howard dean had all the way to iowa. dick gephardt knows he has to take howard dean down. he does. he takes himself down as well. he allows john kerry to slip into first place and win the nomination. i don't think jeb wants to be known as the guy that just takes down donald trump. >> i get the theory which is trump has 100% name id. he is sitting at 25-30. that means there is a large chunk of the party that's not for trump. >> right. >> it's not like he's an unknown figure. >> right. >> so that's the theory of the case. the problem for jeb is this...