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Jeb isn't doing well. what you can tell the us about that? >> i don't think angry is right. i think he is anxious. is he worried. he has been anxious and worried about his son's political career since 1994 i think it's one of the things that snapped him out of the depression he was in 1992. >> when he lost? >> yeah. >> their drama. i think that he wants jeb to be president. he told me with a very explicit word that it was not true that jeb one. jeb told me that if he was supposed to be the one he never got the memo. interestingly, 43 gave me the best explanation of this. he thinks that jeb, as...

>> all right. he could have said that, you no we, without the hesitation or without the stumbling, especially when it comes to the topic of his brother and his dad. it was almost like he had that kind of punch line you know, telling a joke and stumbling through the joke. kind of makes you say, okay get it out. you know you would think he would have been a little bit more prepared about that when talking about his family. >> i think this is an example of the format throwing people. that is an anecdote and line i've heard from jeb bush many, many times on the road. he uses it in town halls all t...