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You tell us what the government code is? >> gary. >> i asked him a question. could he answer? >> jeff, go ahead and then we'll lay out what 1029 is. >> right. the problem is that under the law in every criminal trial the prosecution has a duty to provide the defense with evidence of convictions of any witness and that includes police officers and what we just learned is that there were officers who were convicted and this evidence was not being provided. this was not something that is governed by the government code. this is something that the constitution requires that the united states supre...

Misdemeanor conviction can bes relevant in a criminal trial. let's say you have a situation where a person is charged with assault on a police officer and it turns out that that police officer has a history of violence. okay, that will be admissible in that case. it doesn't matter if it's a felony and misdemeanor, that's where you're wrong. it isn't relevant in the trial. >> jeff, are you saying that you have rap sheets? you have evidence that up to 80 officers are convicted felons or have somehow been tied to some type of crime? >> right. what we found out is -- >> no, he doesn't. >> there we...

Protect and serve us? >> absolutely. and pretty much what jeff is saying is absolute nonsense. let me tell you a couple of things. first of all, i would like to know if the public defender is infersing that we have convicted felons in the san francisco police department. i would pose that question to mr. adachi? is that what you're saying, mr. adachi? >> the problem is because we don't know -- >> oh business yes, you do know. >> the police officers have not been provided to the defense and this is a situation which creates havoc in the criminal justice system because again, we don't want a sit...

To forget in their files and some say it could lead to convicts being overturned. gary delanus is with us and he's president of the san francisco police officer's association. unfortunately, we got cut off during our discussion earlier this week. we bring in public defender jeff adacci. jeff, let's start with you. what's your beef with the cops? >> police officers should not be above the law. in a criminal case when a witness has a record of a conviction or misconduct that evidence must be turned over to the defense. we have a situation here where as many as 80 police officer his misconduct re...

Perjury, gary. we're talking about, let's say you have an officer who has been convicted of a crime of violence, a misdemeanor would that not be relevant in a case where the person is saying, hey, this officer tried to beat me up. >> gary, go ahead and answer that, gary. >> go ahead and answer that. >> first of all, that information can be obtained through a pitch's motion as mr. adachi well knows. second of all -- >> it hasn't been and that's the problem here. >> go ahead, gary. >> why not, jeff? >> because -- >> why haven't you been getting this information. >> they've not been providing the...