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Critical all the details are that i get from interrogations. but i do remember them all. you never know till much later what details really matter. jeff and i worked for a couple months, and these prisoners start providing this information, and i started to get a feel for tikrit. and i realize, every person has a life, and they have a family, and they live in a neighborhood, and they're part of a tribe, and they go to a certain mosque. that's like this family's kids go to this elementary school. that means they're going to have connections to other families that go to that elementary school. i...

So yeah, we worked real well together. >> we'd interrogate all night and then maybe at 4:00, or 5:00 in the morning we'd sit down and we would talk about it, and we'd talk about it nonstop. >> and it became our big piece of day to day life of using those interrogations to conduct operations. >> u.s. troops carried out predawn raids in saddam hussein's hometown. the army says several suspects were arrested in tikrit. >> by september, jeff and i have gone beyond just determining the guilt or innocence of the prisoners that we brought in. i was trying to get information that would lied to a insur...

And it came to me. august. jeff and i are interrogating saddam hussein's cook. >> the individual was picked up on a hit. nobody knew who he was. during the process of the conducting sbargations, it was identified that he was a former chef. and one of the things we'd learned in that conversation was every time saddam showed up, he cooked a special meal. and we asked what that special meal was, and it was muscat. it's a fish that's raised in fish farms in iraq. the kid said, they had this fish pond built in the middle of a war? why would you do that? unless you're stocking fish for

They brought in a guy nasr yasin omar al muslit. nasr yasin breaks and lays out 28 out of the 32 inner circles bodyguards for saddam hussein. halil ibrahim. mupd ibrahim all from this al muslit family. i'm thinking who's running this insurgency? and i started realize, it was all connected to this family, these al muslids. so now, if we find anybody who's related, named al muslit, that's where we start focusing. so we're bringing in all these people and jeff and i figured out a very clear way to get these prisoners to open up and start providing us information. we were really running and then i...

Decisions and to get that information i was learning how to get inside the minds of these prisoners and break them down. when i talk about breaking a prisoner, it has nothing to do with physical contact of any kind. it has to do with breaking their previous decision of not cooperating with me to provide me information, and now they choose to provide me that information. that's a break. >> as questions were being asked and answered, every now and then i might pass him a note to highlight on a topic that was brought up. or tell him the individual was lying, based on what happened on the operatio...