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Lines but in a different way. he was saying -- he believed mueller had some conflict because he was being -- had had an interview with president trump, he was being considered for a job prior to being appointed as special counsel and his law firm -- mueller's law firm, according to ruddy has represented members of the trump family. he thought perhaps he had been privy to information or the thinking of the president that might -- that should disqualify him. >> i'm not sure about that. but on this network we heard this week the former assistant director of the fbi for the criminal division say t...

Might -- that should disqualify him. >> i'm not sure about that. but on this network we heard this week the former assistant director of the fbi for the criminal division say that upon one of the first or second meetings that director comey had with the president where he felt uncomfortable or whatever word he used to scribble down, that he should immediately recuse himself because he became a part of the investigation at that point. what i'm saying and i'm asking jeffrey is -- just out loud is does director mueller have a conflict because of his close personal relationship with the star witne...

Wealth and celebrity and now the presidency. i don't think he cares in the short term whether or not he is believed. he cares whether he is paid attention to. if he needs to -- >> that's the fascinating thing. he is automatically paid attention to. it's not like he is fighting for -- >> it will never be enough. >> -- to get in cindy allen's column. he's won. he won in so many respects. the most powerful guy on the planet. >> one of the things that struck me about the way he behaved as president, he is borrowing a tactic, if he is caught, he gives a time frame when he will tell you the real tru...

Tell you the real truth in week or two weeks, long enough that it sounds close when he says it, but long enough also that you might forget or get distracted. >> that's the idea that something else will come around to supplant that. >> thank you so much. jeffrey, we will have more coming up ahead. melania and baron move into the white house. [vo] what made secretariat the greatest racehorse who ever lived? of course he was strong... ...intelligent. ...explosive. but the true secret to his perfection... was a heart, twice the size of an average horse.

that's according to a pr firm hired by the aau firm hired to take care of this crisis. dodd denied the allegations when confronted but the aau saw fit to tell dodd to leave his post and not return. george howe, they must have found something to force dodd out. do we know what that was? >> reporter: don, at this point that does seem to be the case. in fact, we are learning new details as we examine the time line of events. how long did this group know about these allegations before making the call to contact police? now, what we do know is that two men spoke publicly to espn outside t...