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Intimidation of witnesses via tweet apparently, failure to provide documents to cooperate with investigations, and obstruction of justice. let's talk about the potential charges, the next steps with democratic strategist kevin walling and trump 2020 senior advisor jenna ln. good to have you with us tonig tonight. let's have a look at what we have here. this is what congressman eric swalwell, democrat, said last night when i asked him -- part of the house committee so he's been asking questions. here's what he said when i asked him about the presumption part of this, with no one saying that amb...

Than answers i think in this whole process. it's a lot to come clear. let's release all the transcripts. let's release the call log spirit let's have rudy giuliani come before the house intelligence committee, come clean, right? if the president think he's done nothing wrong can produce these people. we remember the benghazi hearings. obama didn't say, hillary clinton, don't testify before congress. go testify before the house oversight committee. has nothing to fear from an open, transparent process. >> we call that burden shifting because the president has nothing to defend, entirely up to t...

Ukrainians investigating the bidens. >> jenna, articles are coming. >> it's a reasonable presumption, it's fine to circumvent the constitution. let's not pretend this is anything on the constitutional basis, it's anything on a legal basis, or talk about this like it's a legal case that there is something here on the merits. we all know that this is just an impeachment circus, like congressman jordan said very clearly after the last hearing today, the facts are on the president's side, there is no quid pro quo. there is absolutely nothing that is constitutional and the democrats can try to move...