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He's like jobe up there in albany. we mentioned congressman massa's problems. he's going out on monday. charlie rangel had to resign as chairman of the ways and means committee. that's just new york. there's so much coming out of this, joan, that just smacks of, i don't know, rotten boroughs, we don't have anybody elected in new york, and we have richard rabich, and jill ebrand at the center. nobody seems to have the stuff to run for office up there anymore except a couple of rich guys. let's start with the state of new york. what happened there? >> that's my native state. i was born in brookl...

You've got the list. the rap sheet of the democrats right now and the graphics out there. these little town blues, by the way. paterson, just in new york state, paterson, the governor's facing a possible personal ri charge. he's like job up there in albany. we mentioned congressman massa's problems. he's going out on monday. charlie rangel had to resign as chairman of the ways and means committee. that's just new york. there's so much coming out of this, joan, that just smacks of, i don't know, rotten boroughs, we don't have anybody elected in new york, and jill ebrand at the center.

Schrum a democratic strategist. you've got the list. the rap sheet of the democrats right now and the graphics out there. these little town blues, by the way. paterson, just in new york state paterson, the governor's facing a possible personal ri charge. he's like job up there in albany. we mentioned congressman massa's problems. he's going out on monday. charlie rangel had to resign as chairman of the ways and means committee. that's just new york. there's so much coming out of this, joan that just smacks of i don't know rotten boroughs, we don't have anybody elected in new york and jill ebra...

Question is whether or not we think that uproar is against the interests of the people. i think that's what we're going to argue about tonight. >> now i'm going to make an indictment. i'm familiar with the new york state politics. in the past there have been rotten burroughs in the past. you haven't had an act of a political class of active people. what you have is a few people calling the shots. you have right now one eselected senator, schumer, and blew him out of the saddle. he's a real senator. jill ebrand is up there. and richard raf ij appointed under questionable circumstances who may b...

See strong republican challengers. we've got to remember there's obviously a very strong anti-incumbent feel here all across the country. and people i've talked to in new york are particularly upset about the u.s. senate health care bill which would sock new york state with additional $1 billion in fees and cause the closing of clinics all across the state. so whether it's zuckerman or blakeman or dan sr., maybe there will be someone we don't know who will emerge. >> isn't that campbell brown's husband? >> it is. >> it is getting so busy in this world. i don't know friend from foe here, collea...