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And richard ravage appointed under questionable circumstances who may be the next governor of new york. it's beginning to look like a joke of a rotten burrough, two top elected officials basically on the road to be appointed. is this democracy? >> i think the question is -- >> is this good democracy? >> the question is going to be, i think, that that question has been removed when governor paterson said he's not running again. so, we will know who is elected in november. if governor paterson were to resign, mr. ravage who you just questioned would be governor. so, it really wouldn't change tha...

Question is whether or not we think that uproar is against the interests of the people. i think that's what we're going to argue about tonight. >> now i'm going to make an indictment. i'm familiar with the new york state politics. in the past there have been rotten burroughs in the past. you haven't had an act of a political class of active people. what you have is a few people calling the shots. you have right now one eselected senator, schumer, and blew him out of the saddle. he's a real senator. jill ebrand is up there. and richard raf ij appointed under questionable circumstances who may b...

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