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Knows. if it was unsuccessful, say the plane went down and -- they'd be quite embarrassed. >> thanks so much. and with me now, former assistant director of the fbi and my friend, james couch. all right, jim, what happened to this plane? >> who knows. >> looks like more someone took over the air traft. one of those two, might have been a struggle in the plane. the proceediedures, they don't follow. so maybe they came out for a cup of coffee and opened the door and would allow someone in. but to fly for another seven hours after that, if you're going to take over the plane and crash it somewhere...

I just said to jim couchen, the nsa knows my password, they know when my dog goes out. you tell me 600,000 pounds of an airplane, it can just disappear off the face of the earth? >> i'm afraid that's exactly where we are. i am sure, well, i guess i should say i'm hopeful, that our government has more information than they've revealed publicly, and there's a reason to keep what they know quiet. we can't come to any conclusions and i think part of the problem is that the united states government and senior political levels did not -- it's clear the malaysian government is not up to this. it's cl...

Knows. if it was unsuccessful, say the plane went down and -- they'd be quite embarrassed. >> thanks so much. and with me now, former assistant director of the fbi and my friend, james couch. all right, jim, what happened to this plane? >> who knows. >> looks like more someone took over the air traft. one of those two, might have been a struggle in the plane. the proceediedures, they don't follow. so maybe they came out for a cup of coffee and opened the door and would allow someone in. but to fly for another seven hours after that, if you're going to take over the plane and crash it somewhere...

Former boeing 777 instructor and united airlines pilot captain ross. thank you for being with us this evening. you know the plane better than most. can it just disappear? >> normally they don't, judge. good evening. but apparently this one did somewhere in thin air. >> where do you think it is? >> you know, i wish i knew. at this point, nobody really knows, and i liked what your former guest, jim, said. just because somebody said it pinged seven hours later, not necessarily that's that aircraft. >> what was that captain? >> i tend to agree with that? >> wow. >> it is definitely verified that i...

I just said to jim couchen, the nsa knows my password, they know when my dog goes out. you tell me 600,000 pounds of an airplane, it can just disappear off the face of the earth? >> i'm afraid that's exactly where we are. i am sure, well, i guess i should say i'm hopeful, that our government has more information than they've revealed publicly, and there's a reason to keep what they know quiet. we can't come to any conclusions and i think part of the problem is that the united states government and senior political levels did not -- it's clear the malaysian government is not up to this. it's cl...