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And steady recovery. look, we've had jobs created every single month since the last debt ceiling crisis a couple years ago, right? that's with a sequester and with this budget non-sense for the last couple years and probably in large part because the fed is the only functioning body in washington right now. so yeah, congress is working with purposes of job keyuation in america and remember, remember in the election how it was about jobs, jobs, jobs? that's gone away and complaining about obama care trying to gut obama care and trying to balance the budget. they aren't talking about the jobs bu...

Haven investment. the dollar is still the world resaefg. >> that will change. it will take time but those little changes are taking place. to answer your question, pierce, it's a slow burner. it's not going to be a massive thing overnight but everybody will start to notice the effects. people talk about the 1979 debt little bit of hiccup. interest rates nudged up a bit. some people paid higher on their mortgages for that. over time, it will have a corrosive effect. you cannot have this sort of dislocation in financial markets and not see an effect. >> christine, final word to you. what is your...

Some people paid higher on their mortgages for that. over time, it will have a corrosive effect. you cannot have this sort of dislocation in financial markets and not see an effect. >> christine, final word to you. what is your gut feeling about how bad this is going to be? >> i'm worried about the complacency and i'm worried so many people say it's not a big deal. look, stocks are up so much since last time we were here. stocks had a good run, job keyuation. things won't fall out of bed on october 17th. i'm worried by the time you're worried about it, my grandma don't get a social security ch...