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Super pacs have compared to dems and i think dems are about $18 million and republicans are over $200 million. i m delighted to hear that, angela. i ve got to say. half of that is jeb bush. i just want it all to go toward the cause. the nightmare scenario for republicans is that all the other candidates beneath trump split their vote 16 different ways and he comes out the winner. imagine that. i don t foresee that. let s see how he does on the debate stage. john kasich looks like he will squeeze there and make the debate stage, rick perry will be squeezed out. new numbers in the next couple of days could change that. s that the trend. very interesting development there. the latest at this hour on the new reports. we ve been talking about them all morning, that have joe biden considering a last-minute entry into the presidential race. we ll go to the white house now where kristen welker is standing by in our washington bureau. ....
Clinton after two terms, his vice president run in 2000, al gore. bill clinton was behind that campaign from the beginning. he saw it as a legacy and wanted al gore to win. joe biden, sitting vice president of barack obama, he wouldn t have that kind of support from the white house, i don t get that sense. i don t get that sense either, steve. president obama has been fairly robust in terms of his support of secretary clinton. having said that, i think it s interesting if you look at the optics. vice president biden has been next to president obama s side recently at almost every public announcement that president obama has made. they are very close. so you would have to imagine that if he actually did throw his hat into the ring,s that something that would be really difficult for president obama. he would have to really think about how he would handle that and straddle that line. obviously he has given some support to his form eer secreta of state. they did that outgoing interview ....
According to the new york times, the vice president once again is weighing a run with his late son, beau, cited as a possible factor in having prompted the second look at a race. that s been errored by the l.a. times, associated press. hillary clinton has locked up a lot of support on the democratic side. the vice president has yet to do any of the work it takes to build a campaign. the panel is back with me now. let s talk more about joe biden. we were talking earlier in the show about scenarios that would get him into the race. one you look at right now, i guess a little bit is bernie sanders has gotten so much traction on the democratic side. surprising traction on the democratic side. he still trails hillary clinton, obviously. you look in new hampshire. he s within 15 points right now. iowa is further out there. it s a state that there could be room for growth for bernie sanders there. at the same time, democrats look at sanders and say we can t put up our self declare d nominee ....
If joe biden is having fun with this right now, tweaking hillary a little bit i m thinking back to 2010, 2011, how many stories did he have to read about hillary clinton replacing him on the democratic ticket in 2012 and i wonder if there s a little bit of payback involve there had at all. no. we ll pick this up later. turning to a developing story in california where a wildfire near sacramento has already destroyed dozens of homes and kill aid firefighter. getty schwartz was not able to catch up with his camera crew but was able to call in and joins us on the phone from lake port, california. what can you tell us? reporter: we ve been trying to meet up with our crew but we re cut off by this fire. we ve been out along the fire lines. you see these flames shooting up hundreds of feet in the air. this is normally a time when ....
In iowa, he doesn t just lose to hillary. he loses to bernie sanders, comes in third. then his legacy he s saddled with that forever. that s humiliating. where biden is right now as we discussed, he realizes correctly that he would be the national successor to president obama if somebothing were to happen to hillary. short of that, i think he s just building an operation. he s gauging his support. you wanted something your whole life and people are saying do it, it s hard to ignore that. he wants to be ready to jump in if that moment comes. that s how i read this latest news here. personal thing on joe biden s part, too. not just that he wanted it so much but the bond with his son by this report of his son telling him this on his death bed saying dad i want you to do this. there s a strong personal tug that we can talk about all the political calculations. it s a tough load for him politically. ....