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>> joe. >> mika there are excuses for every one of these countries that wouldn't be showing up but you look at the countries that are turning down an invitation to spend one-on-one time with the president of the united states alone at camp david, talking about the most important security issue certainly that they faced in a very long time. and you're going to have skeptical headlines and you're going to have skeptical editorials like you have on the editor kralial page of the "wall street journal". that said, saudi arabia very clearly came out like we first reported on "morning joe," t came ou...

Run sadudi arabia on a day to day basis. but a lot of this was about symbolism, it was about the heads of government. the new king of saudi arabia who had not been to the united states to be in washington for the dinner and then to camp david for the summit meeting. i think they're not coming for two reasons. one is there's still unhappiness in the gulf about the proposed nuclear deal with iran. and secondly and i think probably more importantly right now, the iranians are on a power grab. they have become the king makers in the heart of the sunni world. in baghdad, syria, certainly in labor a...

>> joe. >> no but he is part of a family that if he gets elected -- i may end up voting for the guy, but if he gets elected, you'll have a bush 41 a bush 43 and bush 45. >> and can i just push back on that answer? >> first of all let me finish. that's it is disturbing to anybody, even barbara bush a year and a halving a go. so that's a serious problem.is disturbing to anybody, even barbara bush a year and a halving a go. so that's a serious problem. i don't care whether it's bush or clinton, they will have to work to get answerround it. >> i do think the time not from washington, i'm a down ho...

They wrote there is substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the, as of the patriots' employees involved in the deflation of the football. it clearly constitutes behavior to the ib telling getity of the game. brady's agent says he will appeal. adding i'm confident the wells report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact finding and logic. this comes in addition to joe, the statement from bob kraft, the patriots owner, also blasting this decision from the nfl and saying tom brady has our full support. >> yeah i don't understand this will...

Numbers don't lie. same case with brady. he did much better against the colts when he had fully inflated balls than when they had been deflated deflated. >> by the way, there is no way to talk about this subject without all of it becoming a punch line. >> just stop. just stop. stop. stop. are we done with the balls? i want to know if it's over. >> just to acknowledge joe's point, there is no comparison in severity or impact on the competition between what tom brady did and what juicers in baseball especially and other sports did. my only point was in abc to joe's question that the focus on bra...