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Party has no national security plan right now. >> talk about that. i think there are a couple of arguments that we have heard between the two of them. one is about fiscal policy, but the other is about national defense. let me play a couple of clips. >> these isoteric debates. i want them to sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation and they won't. >> it's really, i think, kind of sad and cheap that he would use the cloak of 9/11 victims and say, oh, i'm the only one who cares about these victims. hog wash! >> john, is one way or another of these guys coming out ahe...

Most washington politicians only care about bringing home the bacon so they can get re-elec d re-elected. >> this is the king of bacon talking about bacon? you know? rp party is shrinking in new england and i'm trying to grow the party by talking about libertarian ideas of privacy on the internet and attacking me isn't helping the party. he is hurting the party. >> let's bring in jason starchestarchenford and john brabend. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> john, i'm curious. what do you think of this back and forth? is it just sort of legitimate laying the groundwork for 2016? >> you don...