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Sensitivities of an investigation like that. was this just a sloppy, overly broad thing by a very low-level person? or was this being driven by a more-high-level person who was determined to see what they could find? we certainly have reason to believe that they were hoping that adam schiff would ultimately fall into the net of that particular leak investigation, even if he was not their official subject, at that moment. >> yeah. the -- the -- this is from quoting from the piece you wrote. a leak investigation appeared to be primarily focused on michael bahar. people close to mr. sessions, mr....

General jeff sessions, rod rosen stein. they want to hear from bill barr and head of the national security division john demurs. they can make requests for any of the officials. former and current to come and testify voluntarily. if they refuse, they could issue subpoenas, though in the senate it would likely require the support of at least one republican on the panel. but if any of these officials refuse to come with the subpoenas, they need to make a decision about whether they want to go to court to compel the testimony. there's currently an ongoing office of inspector general investigation...

Rolling out new pieces from keir simmons with vladimir putin. next hour we'll hear kasie hunt about the january 6th insurrection at the capitol. you won't want to miss that. we have breaking news at msnbc. john demurs, a top security official at the department of justice will step down at the end of next week. officials told our own ken, that he was secretly subpoenaed to -- reporters, and the revelations about what the trump administration did with their doj have set off this political firestorm and calls of abuse of power. coming up here on the show, moral failure. former british prime min...

In targeting specific timing, specific individuals, that this was a method of last resort when it's this broad and this big in scale, that looks that this was not the last resort in terms of the investigation. the second piece is, how was this handled in the national security division, my old division, at the justice department? if i was the members of congress, i'd be wanting to hear, not necessarily from former attorneys general, but from the current assistant attorney general for national security, john demurs who was the assistant attorney general during the trump administration and is sti...

Democrats that the justice department has not provided enough information. i think you're going to hear more about that but of course, john, now that it's under investigation by the inspector general it may take a little more time to get the answers. >> let me walk through this with you in the sense that the inspector general, whose name as come up several times in recent years, mr. horowitz who is well-respected within the adopt. what authority does he have? this started under jeff sessions and reinvigorated under attorney general barr. democrats from congress want answers from those two indi...