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Pardon himself. would you agree with that? >> . [ inaudible ] >> that is not a constitutional issue i've studied, so i will withhold judgment at this point. >> david, that was 18 seconds. okay? you heard someone walking, but it was 18 seconds it took ted cruz to come up with an answer to that question. which is, oh, i don't know. what do you say to that? >> you know, senator cruz is ushl usually not short on opinions on constitutional law. so that's what i think you would call a very pregnant pause. john is right, it's an open question legally, although the office of legal counsel at the depar...

John, when sarah kept saying today, i refer you to outside counsel, i can't answer that, another thing she kept saying repeatedly is, stop asking me if he's going to pardon himself, because he h donenything wrong. and here's how that went down. >> thedent hasn't done ything wrong. thankfully the president hasn't done anything wrong. the president hasn't done anything wrong. once again, the president hasn't done anything wrong. thankfully the president hast done anything wrong. i reiterate the fact that the president hasn't done anything wrong. >> why is rudy giuliani out there saying the presi...

To the outside counsel, rather than correcting the record or explaining why she said he didn't dictate, but only weigh in, in the past. statement.side counsel released jay low, one of the president's attorneys, who was one of the authors on the letter said the statement in january reflects our understanding of the events that occurred. it is worth noting that jay sekulow himself on at least four occasions also said early on that the president did not dictate the statement on the don junior meeting. clearly something changed because in the alert he was a part of in january, he along with john d...

Whether the president knew about the stormy daniels payment. she said, i would never knowingly give false information as a person of lahuman decency. so it's puzzling today why she couldn't just correct the record. >> i want to go to my panel. appreciate all of your time. john, you heard today sarah sanders, i can't talk about it. obviously she was very happy to talk about it and give a very definitive and explicit answer last summer. now the lawyers have come out and said the answer is untrue. now she says she can't talk about it. how big of a problem is this? >> well, erin, i happened to be ...