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Is good, meaning, is he still with us, is he going to talk to the feds is what's implied there? >> and when nauta said he was good, the former president agreed to give him an attorney? >> right. and i mean, you know, if you look at the john gotti case, you know, he was called the teflon don because he had beat three cases before he finally went down in the fourth. but, you know, the defense strategy was, i pick everybody's lawyers. i, you know, handle paying everybody's lawyers. i, not the lawyers, figure out the defense strategy. and it's interesting listening to the trump lawyers, as they ki...

-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. tonight on "360," new reporting about the identity of a mystery employee and key witness mentioned in those new charges filed against the former president. we'll talk to george conway, just how worried the former president should be. new information on another mystery surrounding the former president's new codefendant in the classified documents case, carlos de oliveira, how did a maintenance worker end up in a federal indictment? cnn has obtained exclusive access to never-before-seen footage of ukrainian manned sea drones they're using...

Discussion, and we could all hear him say that these documents were secret. later that day came his next shifting line of defense that there was no classified document on his desk when he was talking to that grouch people, that it wasn't real. quoting the president, i would say it was bra voir diredo, if you want to know the truth. i was talking and holding up papers, but i had no documents. i didn't have any documents. then today we heard him swing back to one of his first excuses, saying this to breitbart. >> i'm protected by the presidential records act totally. it shouldn't even be a case....

United states, you can declassify just by saying, it's declassified. even by thinking about it. in other words, when they left the white house, they were declassified. >> but the special counsel's office appears to have evidence that undercuts that defense, as cnn exclusively reported a short time later, sources said the national archive has evidence from the special counsel that the former president knew and perhaps disregarded an established declassification process, one that does not include just thinking about it, to quote the former president. and the special counsel has a recording of th...

They don't say, the president, ceo, they don't say mr. trump. the boss. and they're saying the boss for a reason. it's like they're not supposed to speak his name in this regard. >> there's also i think a signal conversation where he's sort of checking the loyalty of de oliveira. is he good? is he good? >> just need to know if carlos is good, meaning, is he still with us, is he going to talk to the feds is what's implied there. >> and when nauta said he was good, then the former president agreed to give him an attorney? >> right. and i mean, you know, if you look at the john gotti case, you kn...