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The kremlin. they have to worry about that. so he thinks, putin thinks by seizing ukraine he improves russia's security. he would be reducing russia's security. you can be sure that russian generals would not be too happy about that. anita: yeah, i get not. final thoughts, ambassador? >> well, i've heard talk about -- we have seen boris johnson go to kyiv and maybe biden should go to kyiv, we will not second the 82nd airborne but we will do everything else which is unpleasant for mr. putin if he decides to launch a strike. anita: that would be interesting. thank you so much for your time and i...

Action that is putin is taking is getting him exactly the opposite. this crisis has strengthened nato, it has resulted in more nato forces on russia's borders and so we will see where it goes. general love said that he is advice would be to continue to offer putin both carrots and sticks and as we saw from that readout the threat as david spunt was pointed out is clearly there. the president saying that if, indeed, russia does go to war with an invasion that there will be swift and severe costs to russia. we just don't know exactly what that translates to. anita: and you know, one of the thing...

Hour-plus call. this is not the first phone call the president has had with his russian counterpart. they've spoken twice about this issue in the last i'd say six weeks, two months, so at this point, it's not clear if the white house meaning the president of the united states levied these threats against president putin earlier on and they just were not reported to the press. that's obviously possible and something else to watch for, oftentimes griff when we have the calls between the white house and the kremlin, the kremlin will release their own version of the call. it's possible that we may...

Zelenskyy said talks with the kremlin are becoming quote more realistic, and this morning, russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov said they are close to some sort of an agreement. although it's not clear what that might mean. again, as those talks move into a third straight day, the violence continues to escalate, and the situation for those in the war zone continues to get worse. i want to bring in nbc's mike memoli covering the white house. john hurst is director of the atlanta council and former ambassador to ukraine, mark, a senior adviser with the csis national security program. thank yo...

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