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Steve: it's preventable, isn't it? >> well, it certainly is, you know. we say that it's an inherent risk when you decide to be a law enforcement officer, but, the reckless policies that are permeating throughout this country make it more and more possible every day and it's inexcusable and avoidable. steve: john, last year there were protests all across the country regarding the killing of george floyd, a lot of people were talking about defunding the police. you know, the public opinion of police wavered. where are we now a year later regarding all of that? >> well, i know specifically here i...

Robbing peter to pay paul. steve: this officer, the first officer killed to pay tenure lori lightfoot as mayor she spoke to the press a couple of days ago. this is what she had to say. listen. >> the police are not our enemies. they are human just as we are. live just as we are. also risking their lives every day for our safety. and security. when you see a police officer, say thank you. we owe them a test of gratitude that we will likely never be able to truly repay. steve: john, that was the mayor yesterday. but that was important. she said it out loud. the police are not our enemies because...

Johnit's into to note he didn't mention donald trump. what's the upshot? >> the upshot is what you heard from both those people, justin amash and president trump, like any good political move, it has some noble bearing behind it in the mind of the person declaring it, justin amash that he's fed up with party politics and this has become a terrible thing and a pox on both houses. yet donald trump it's absolutely right, justin amash is going to have difficulty winning a republican primary with the president lined up against him. the only way to win his seat in the house and he may not do it anyw...

Exchange for it they look like they're what's called influence peddling. they are trying to get our government to do things in exchange for the payments. it looks extremely sorted. i don't blame people. that's why i think the jury is going to have very little sympathy for manafort. the american people have become sick and tired of inside the beltway influence peddling for large amounts of cash. >> dana: let me switch topics with you. i wanted to play for you a sound last night from rudy giuliani talking about whether the trump team will advise president trump to sit down with robert mueller an...

Build. joe biden visited fake lab which was filled with malfunctioning prototypes of the device. >> you can see firsthand what innovation is all about, just walking through this facility. >> we can begin to make health information more accessible at the time it matters most. >> holmes was indicted on wire fraud charges in june and joining knee how is john, the author of this book bad blood, secrets and lies in the silicon valley startup and he is part of the "wall street journal," which is how i was following these stories for years before you wrote the book. take me back to when you first sta...